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[Vwdiesel] Riders side rear wheel
Doug Boes
2016-09-11 21:47:30 UTC
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Finally got a large enough puller to pull the drum but it didn't come off
w/o a fight. Had to turn the puller a little, hammer w/rubber mallet & turn
the puller a little more until it "popped". Then walked the drum off the
shoes. The shoe hold down pins are gone! The springs and the hold down clips
were there but no pins. The inner seal popped out during the drum removal.
So, will be replacing the inner seal and ordered a hardware kit. Thought
about swapping shoes but the rear shoe has the E-Brake lever and will
require removal and installation on the other shoe to complete the swap.

I plan to repack the bearings with synthetic grease.
l***@aol.com
2016-09-12 14:32:26 UTC
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Used to be you had to swap the e-brake lever to the new shoes (not a big deal, one pin with a retainer clip). The last couple I have done came with a new lever attached. Straight swap.
Loren


-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Boes <***@windstream.net>
To: vwdiesel <***@vwfans.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 11, 2016 2:47 pm
Subject: [Vwdiesel] Riders side rear wheel

Finally got a large enough puller to pull the drum but it didn't come offw/o a fight. Had to turn the puller a little, hammer w/rubber mallet & turnthe puller a little more until it "popped". Then walked the drum off theshoes. The shoe hold down pins are gone! The springs and the hold down clipswere there but no pins. The inner seal popped out during the drum removal.So, will be replacing the inner seal and ordered a hardware kit. Thoughtabout swapping shoes but the rear shoe has the E-Brake lever and willrequire removal and installation on the other shoe to complete the swap.I plan to repack the bearings with synthetic grease._______________________________________________Vwdiesel mailing ***@vwfans.comhttp://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
James Hansen
2016-09-12 20:31:24 UTC
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Most likely the pins are laying there somewhere. When you pull with the puller, the majority of the stress gets transfered to the backing plate via those missing pins, because the shoes try to go with the drums, that are trying to leave in an un-natural direction that the pins are supposed to prevent. Lotsa stress on the backing plate and brake cylinder too, be sure it didn't bend before the pins expired. Just bend it back if it is. Yeah, they are quite the fight... easier if you can get to the slack adjuster wedges, but if you can't you can't.
-j

-----Original Message-----
From: Vwdiesel [mailto:vwdiesel-***@vwfans.com] On Behalf Of Doug Boes
Sent: September-11-16 3:48 PM
To: ***@vwfans.com
Subject: [Vwdiesel] Riders side rear wheel

Finally got a large enough puller to pull the drum but it didn't come off w/o a fight. Had to turn the puller a little, hammer w/rubber mallet & turn the puller a little more until it "popped". Then walked the drum off the shoes. The shoe hold down pins are gone! The springs and the hold down clips were there but no pins. The inner seal popped out during the drum removal.
So, will be replacing the inner seal and ordered a hardware kit. Thought about swapping shoes but the rear shoe has the E-Brake lever and will require removal and installation on the other shoe to complete the swap.

I plan to repack the bearings with synthetic grease.

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Bryan Belman
2016-09-13 12:01:02 UTC
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Lesson to learn, don't let your pore old VW sit for so long without any Love.....Nice job Doug. 

Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD BEW, 100hp, 5sp -- running :<)04 Golf TDI PD BEW, 100hp, 5sp Tiptronic Auto -- running  :<)82 Diesel Westy 1.9TD AAZ (almost running) :<{70 Type 1 Beetle -- Running :-)

From: James Hansen <***@sasktel.net>
To: 'Doug Boes' <***@windstream.net>; ***@vwfans.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Riders side rear wheel

Most likely the pins are laying there somewhere. When you pull  with the puller, the majority of the stress gets transfered to the backing plate via those missing pins, because the shoes try to go with the drums, that are trying to leave in an un-natural direction that the pins are supposed to prevent.  Lotsa stress on the backing plate and brake cylinder too, be sure it didn't bend before the pins expired.  Just bend it back if it is.  Yeah, they are quite the fight... easier if you can get to the slack adjuster wedges, but if you can't you can't.
-j

-----Original Message-----
From: Vwdiesel [mailto:vwdiesel-***@vwfans.com] On Behalf Of Doug Boes
Sent: September-11-16 3:48 PM
To: ***@vwfans.com
Subject: [Vwdiesel] Riders side rear wheel

Finally got a large enough puller to pull the drum but it didn't come off w/o a fight. Had to turn the puller a little, hammer w/rubber mallet & turn the puller a little more until it "popped". Then walked the drum off the shoes. The shoe hold down pins are gone! The springs and the hold down clips were there but no pins. The inner seal popped out during the drum removal.
So, will be replacing the inner seal and ordered a hardware kit. Thought about swapping shoes but the rear shoe has the E-Brake lever and will require removal and installation on the other shoe to complete the swap.

I plan to repack the bearings with synthetic grease.

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